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Posted by: Scott TITLE: AGE / VALUE:   1930~s Schwinn with an AS & Co sprocket
Hi! I don~t know much about old bikes so bear with me. I have a Arnold Schwinn "Admiral" with a TA serial number. I believe this to be from the 1930~s. The bike is a ladied model that is complete minus 1 or two original nuts. It has the letters A S & Co machined into the sprocket/crank and I have never seen that in all the research I~ve done. Is this a rare sprocket/crank. Should I part the bike out or sell it whole? I hate to part it as I believe old complete things should stay that way! Any advice/comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Scott
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Posted by Scott
Ken, I hadn~t realized, until today that is, that you had replied. FYI I~m selling it on e-bay now. Here is the link with alot more pictures. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220162819925&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012 It probably won~t sell as it~s pickup only but I wanted to be able to at least say that I tried to keep the bike whole. If it doesn~t and you are interested in parts, keep checking after the auction is over as I~ll be listing them shortly. Forks are straight by the way and the tires are 26 x 1 3/8 not 1.375 as I previously stated. One of them is hardly used and the other has cracks in the side walls and probably useless. Anyhow, thanks so much for your assistance & take care, Scott
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Posted by ken
Scott, it was enlightening to read the schwinnbike comments and view your pictures. I have what appears to be the identical frame, except that mine had the three-piece crankset, which requires a different bottom bracket. Based on what know, I agree it~s about 1940. The reason I have it is the dilemma they faced: previous owner needed the crankset to restore a rare prewar Superior, and when he retired and cleaned his garage this stuff was left over. From the absence of downtube markings I suspect yours has been repainted. If you want I have a picture of the original details.
I don~t know whether the one-piece crank is harder to find; I doubt it, but yours obviously has some value. My first response was the same as Mark Smith~s: they put these on T&C~s and stuff.
Don~t discount the value of your saddle, either, just because it ain~t too clean- people restore those too.
And then the wheels are unusual too. If your wheels are in good shape they may be of interest to someone.
Your front fork looks a little bent in the photo. I~ve got one with the fork lock. Unfortunately, I don~t have the key!
Keep me posted-
by: 209.7.150.163
Posted by Scott
Ken, It does say 26 x 1.375 on the tires. Here is a link to what guys on the Schwinn site are saying. They say it is a rare 1-piece Superior crank? I have pictures there also as I can~t get them to load here? http://www.schwinnbike.com/heritage/showthread.php?t=49777
Thanks for your help, timeinabottle
by: 63.237.124.70
Posted by ken
Scott, I just thought to ask if it~s an Ashtabula crankset. Schwinn made some upper-end bikes with 3-piece cranks with the AS&Co look around 39-41. The New World was that way briefly.
Be patient with me, sometimes I don~t absorb everything I read. Your chainwheel probably is rare- I know a guy who parted out a women~s new world for that chainring, had it rechromed for a prewar Superior I think it was.
by: 209.7.150.163
Posted by ken
Not to chase you around, but that wheel size suggests the roadster page... but first, clarify that it is in fact fractional and not 26x1.375, which is a different deal.
You haven~t actually described the chainwheel. Can you take some pictures?
Then go to the schwinn frame dating info at
www.angelfire.com/rant/allday101/SchwinnCodesRebuild1.html
and see if you can find any features that help pin down the era.
by: 209.7.150.163
Posted by Scott
Update. Somebody in the lightweight group told me this posting should be in the middleweights. However, I~m sure this is a lightweight bike as the tire size is 26 x 1 3/8". Also, the Musselman hub has a 1,900,000 patent number which dates it to 1934/1935. This bike has a key-lock to keep the forks from moving and the seat matches those I~ve seen from the 1930~s. The handlebars are very rounded ie: no unbent tube except where the grips are. Still I~m mostly interested in the sprocket as described in the original posting. Any help? Thanks for your thoughts Ken. Scott
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by: 207.200.116.201
Posted by ken
That~s the way they made ~em.
I agree with your philosophy. Sadly those of us who want to keep things whole often have to find storage space for them... if you sell it the next owner may part it out, but you have to sell it to find out what it~s worth to anyone but you.
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